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Post by Gordis on Apr 4, 2007 12:07:53 GMT
Great Eryndil post, Val. My map-maker's heart sings! Now here is one who navigated according to my map without a single blunder!    |
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Post by Gordis on Apr 4, 2007 12:09:23 GMT
FURTHER PLOTTING
Actually, as Val is adamant on having everything of interest happen in 1348 - and with good reason I now think- I am going to propose a drastic solution - to change all the dates of the already written posts one year forward - with the role-play starting in September 1347, not 1346. Then we shall not be obliged to fill a whole year Game-time with dull secondary subplots. After all, we have to keep the game lively and the story captivating.
What do you think?
[Technically: in the game threads it can be done progressively, (first placing an announcement that 1346 should read as 1347) but in the text to be published it is very easy - just change 1346 to 1347 throughout the Word document automatically.]
But we have to decide NOW - as the next chapter with the date should be posted THIS WEEK - I plan it on Friday or Saturday.
If we all agree on that, we shall have approximately the following timeline (this is nothing but a draft, of course):
September 1347 the story starts
November 2, 1347 -we are now at this point
Nov 3 Gimilbeth's company reaches Brochenridge
November 5, 1347 Gimilbeth meets the Dwarves, is attacked by the orcs, but not captured.
Nov 7 Caelen in C. Brin meets the returning troops and learns that Callon remained with Gimilbeth's party. Uh-Oh. But she now has good friends in Cameth Brin.
Nov 10, 1347 Gimilbeth arrives to Amon Sul with Nauremir, Hurgon and Callon, meets Beleg and his Family. She uses the Palantir. She stays there till spring, - maybe visiting Fornost as well??.
Nov 1347 - March 1348 Meanwhile in Cameth Brin Broggha plays the fox. He becomes nicer. Broggha's men winter on King's Road. This puts a cramp on local resources - like food!
December 1347 - Feb 1348. Orcs attack Imlad Mitheithel and Broggha "saves" it in a "glorious" winter campaign (pre-arranged with the WK). The Governor of Imlad Mitheithel and the Present Captain of the King's army Grand High Marshall (GHM) are put to shame by Broggha's victory and largely discredited. Maybe the Governor of Imlad Mitheithel is killed by orcs?- eh, Val?
March - April '48 Gimilbeth returns to Cameth-Brin (with Callon and Hurgon, but without Nauremir) and starts plotting and playing games with Belzagar and through him with the Witch-King.
.Eryndil either learns something about what Broggha did, or otherwise protests and supports the old GHM too much - and is discredited himself.
April '48 In a campaign to "wipe out traitors" - Broggha attacks various smaller fortresses, including Ostinand, which he wipes out. Eryndil had already been banished from court, and now flees with other survivors, taking up the life of an outlaw, in the forests.
May 48 The King, feeling secure, names Broggha Governor of Mitheithel. The Witch-King repeats his order to Broggha to kidnap Gimilbeth for him.
End of May 1348 Broggha, preparing to leave Cameth Brin fir Imlad Mitheithel, kidnaps Tarniel, Odaragariel AND Gimilbeth and flees with his captives to Mitheithel. The King rallies what remains of his forces and prepares to lay siege.
Mid-year's Day 1348, Broggha and Tarniel are wed at Mitheithel. Gimilbeth is sent to Angmar, after witnessing the marriage.
early July 1348 Broggha explains from the ramparts of Mitheithel that he and Tarniel are married. He brings her forth, and she tells her father, from there, that she stays with him willingly (under duress) Tarnendur resigns himself to this match and returns to Cameth Brin, leaving Tarniel and Odare with Broggha.
Mid- August '48 Gimilbeth returns to Cameth Brin with Agannalo, her "rescuer". The King is happy.
Soon one of Tarnendur's sons has an 'unfortunate accident'
September 1348 Tarnendur's other son also suffers a weird stroke of fate. Tarniel begins to "show" and the King realizes that the future (if male) child will be now his single heir. Alternatively his Kingdom goes to Malvegil of Arthedain.
Early october 1348 Tarnendur summons Broggha to Cameth Brin to account for his actions. Broggha comes, willingly, and innocently - and brings his wife Tarniel along. But as they meet, Broggha becomes enraged by the King's accusations, and maybe also by the king's idea to make him REGENT for the future Tarniel's son , not the next King - eh, Val? Broggha rises up and strikes Tarnendur down. Broggha declares himself King. CC's probably flee to Arthedain, as Callon made friends at Amon Sul. (Rian - what you think?)
Late Oct '48 Broggha goes in state to swear allegiance to Angmar taking (Tarniel?, Odare?), Gimilbeth, maybe Belzagar? and Agannalo with him.
[Val, you are right that Tariel in her condition would do better at home. But it is really for Elfhild and Serenoli to decide whether they wish their characters to go for the trip or stay- we must give players enough leeway. For me it is OK both ways]
Late October '48 Beleg learns of Tarnendur's fate and his betrothed's plight. He starts preparing the rescue expedition. Nauremir? Callon?
End of-November - Beleg's rescue expedition starts
early December 48'- Tarniel and Odare return to Cameth Brin.- if they WERE on the trip at all. Broggha is delayed in Imlad Mitheithel. Gimilbeth stays in Carn-Dum.
Dec '48 the Princesses are rescued. Broggha returns and is mad. Here, I think, comes the Witch-King's final surprise - no idea what it could be yet (ha-ha).
before Yule 48 Beleg and Odare return to Fornost.
Please, everyone, give your opinion on this, ASAP We can even make a poll...
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Post by Serenoli on Apr 4, 2007 16:07:31 GMT
I like the idea of forward one year. The whole thing was getting too long otherwise... Might seem improbable for Broggha to get so much power so quickly, especially, as right now he's in a bad position, but I think its not a big problem. So, I'm saying right-ho! Rian, Valandil, amazing output, guys! Its like a dam has burst, and you two are flowing out...  And, Gordis, I even feel sorry for Algeirr... hanging convlusing...  very creepy. And all for my silly jewel-laden princess. I'm writing the start of the hunt, with some help from Rian, hopefully. I've sent you a PM about it, Rian. P.S. Would be fun for Odare to go to Angmar. If Elfhildwants to go, I'm game. |
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Post by Rian on Apr 4, 2007 16:23:11 GMT
Serenoli! You're online right now - more Odare, please!! I really want you to write the hunt scene from her POV! Your posts are wonderful! EDIT - I was posting while you were PMing me I responded to your PM and Elfhild, too - I miss your posts! Can you do the hunt scene, too? Yes, I've posted a lot recently - I've finally had some time lately - things are settling in in our new home. I won't always write this much, though - I feel I had to get all those posts filled in for part 2. Gordis - those general story points and timelines are fine with me. My characters don't drive any of the action at all, so I'm pretty flexible. I had a thought about closing out part II - I like how I closed out part I *modest look* with a tie-in reference to the title, and also since Caelen opened part I, I like how her post closed it, too. So I made a quick change to her closing post in part II, using the word "intrigue" to tie it in to the title of part II. Then Val made a post after mine, so it wasn't the end anymore. I was thinking I'd just move Caelen's post, but then I thought it would be better if someone else's character closed part II. I thought either the WK, who opened it, or Gimilbeth, who really figures large in it (and they're both into "intrigues and sorcery" big time, whereas Caelen is only in a small intrigue and no sorcery) would be the best candidates. If you guys agree, I think it would be nice for one of you to close out part II with some type of summary post ending something like this: thoughts on publishing:Re the "publishing the current section" thread - I think we might want to have two copies - one is the untouchable original version (slightly edited by Gordis for continuity and correct date placing of posts) and one is the edited one. That way, we can always go back for reference if it gets really messed up. But also, Gordis has her Word document on her computer, so maybe that's enough. and glancing through part II, I think I might write in a few "on the way to Eryndil's dad's pad" posts to put in the first 2 pages, where there is nothing from C&C and E. Story-wise, it just doesn't feel balanced, IMO. That was right during our packing and moving time, and I couldn't get any posts in, and I think it would "feel" better if it has the same "rhythm" as parts I and III. But then again, maybe I won't get around to it - I'll see - if I come up with anything, I"ll run it by you guys for thumbs up/down. Val - changes and additions are great, thanks
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Post by Gordis on Apr 4, 2007 18:12:35 GMT
I had a thought about closing out part II - I like how I closed out part I *modest look* with a tie-in reference to the title, and also since Caelen opened part I, I like how her post closed it, too. So I made a quick change to her closing post in part II, using the word "intrigue" to tie it in to the title of part II. Then Val made a post after mine, so it wasn't the end anymore. I was thinking I'd just move Caelen's post, but then I thought it would be better if someone else's character closed part II. I thought either the WK, who opened it, or Gimilbeth, who really figures large in it (and they're both into "intrigues and sorcery" big time, whereas Caelen is only in a small intrigue and no sorcery) would be the best candidates. If you guys agree, I think it would be nice for one of you to close out part II with some type of summary post ending something like this: blah blah blah Get my army ready blah blah. I want to rule the world! or at least the north! blah blah. He/she realized that to do this, it was going to take more than intrigues and sorcery." No need for this Rian Neither yours, nor Val's posts will be the last in Runnings - as they are dated Oct 21-23, but there are posts dated by later dates. I will soon squeeze your posts into their proper chronological place on the first page of Shadow II. The last post in "Intrigues and Sorcery will be Tarniel's dated Oct 26. It ends this way "Perhaps Gimilbeth has found an enemy," Tarniel spoke up, her eyes widening in alarm. "Only evil comes to those who dabble in sorcery!"I think it is a great finale. Serenoli and Rian, thanks for voting! What do the others think? |
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Post by Rian on Apr 4, 2007 18:56:51 GMT
No need for this Rian Neither yours, nor Val's posts will be the last in Runnings - as they are dated Oct 21-23, but there are posts dated by later dates. I will soon squeeze your posts into their proper chronological place on the first page of Shadow II. Then I might write one up for the end of Part I, because I liked how it worked We'll all share an opinion on this when the time comes, though. What do you currently have for the end of Part I? That sounds like a good ending! |
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Post by Gordis on Apr 4, 2007 19:27:07 GMT
What do you currently have for the end of Part I? Your Caelen post, of course! ;D The one that ends so well... |
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Post by Rian on Apr 4, 2007 19:35:11 GMT
Neither yours, nor Val's posts will be the last in Runnings ... Oh, I guess I just misunderstood this part :confused: You're talking about other posts, I guess. Well, everything will come out nicely in the edits - we do have some out-of-place posts for sure! I wasn't really interested in publishing it before, but now it's kinda fun! And I like the chance to edit things after letting them rest for a few months. Now I just have to get my lazy booty over to the Cameth Brin arrival post and line it up with your excellent map (I plan to cheat copiously off of Val's write-up! ) |
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Post by Gordis on Apr 4, 2007 19:44:41 GMT
Neither yours, nor Val's posts will be the last in Runnings ... Oh, I guess I just misunderstood this part :confused: You're talking about other posts, I guess. Well, everything will come out nicely in the edits - we do have some out-of-place posts for sure! No, you didn't misunderstand - it was my blunder. I meant "Intrigues and Sorcery", not "Runnings". My bad  , of course you have been confused. There will be no post rearranging in Shadow 1, only in Shadow 2. |
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Post by Rian on Apr 4, 2007 19:46:12 GMT
oh, I see - yes, that makes sense now and thanks for all of your hard work putting it into shape Serenoli - hurry up with your race post! I can't wait! Odare cracks me up! *bites nails eagerly* And what's with her new dressing philosophy?  |
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very creepy. And all for my silly jewel-laden princess. 
, of course you have been confused.