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Post by Gordis on Mar 4, 2007 14:44:24 GMT
:)Thanks, Serenoli. Actually it was Tarniel's post that made me think about the life debt thing...  I will ponder what price it will be...  Any edits, Elfhild? Do you like Nauremir's new name? I can change for something else, if you like... |
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Post by Elfhild on Mar 5, 2007 5:31:17 GMT
Great posts, everyone! They give me lots of ideas... ;D
Gordis, I like Nauremir's new name, Helmir. Yes, Nauremir is very confused, and very frightened... *plotting*
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Post by Rian on Mar 5, 2007 16:07:55 GMT
Hey guys, I had an idea I wanted to run by you all - someone had mentioned that the King was short of Dunedain-type-guys, and that made me think of putting Callon in Gimilbeth's procession as a kind of horse-tender/expert/vet-if-necessary person, esp. because I think the trip was supposed to be very short. I could easily rewrite my Caelen post and take him out. It would be interesting to have him in Gimilbeth's group. But I need your political/geographical opinions -
(geographical:) knowing the terrain, how long could he have feasibly been there before G. left? and
(political:)would that be long enough for him to be trusted enough to go on a trip with the princess?
The only other problem I could see is if he would leave his sister at this time, but he would prob. think she's safe there, and if he was working at the king's stables, he might have to go. Anyway, that was an idea I had and wanted to run by you guys - I'll certainly trash it if you guys don't think it will work. (I need to back-write their arrival at Cameth Brin, anyway ...)
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Post by Gordis on Mar 5, 2007 18:24:51 GMT
Rian: "Hey guys, I had an idea I wanted to run by you all - someone had mentioned that the King was short of Dunedain-type-guys, and that made me think of putting Callon in Gimilbeth's procession as a kind of horse-tender/expert/vet-if-necessary person, esp. because I think the trip was supposed to be very short. I could easily rewrite my Caelen post and take him out. It would be interesting to have him in Gimilbeth's group"It would be nice to have him in Gimilbeth's group - as the action in Cameth Brin will be stalled for some time - while we concentrate on Gimilbeth's journey, Nauremir, orcs and Dwarves - anyway that was the idea for the III part of the game.. About the journey being short: Not exactly. There are 100 Dunedain guards that go with Gimilbeth till Brockenridge only - and then return back. If Callon is with them, he is bound to return in a week - but he will miss the ambush and the fighting - all the fun in fact. Then 20 guards and the drivers of two wagons go with Gimilbeth till Amon Sul and stay there with her - for maybe a few months - till next spring. And there will be ambushes and fighting on the way, the meeting with Dwarves and a lot of entertainment that we have not yet devised. ;D If you want Callon in the first group - no problem. If you want him in the second - it takes some plotting, as the guy would have hardly agreed to leave his sister alone for several months. But suppose the driver of Gimilbeth's or Hurgon's wagon had fallen ill and was replaced by Callon? Or Gimilbeth just ordered to take the vet with them (maybe to tend to the ailing Nauremir ;D *evil laugher*.) Rian: " (geographical:) knowing the terrain, how long could he have feasibly been there before G. left? "The nazgul scream in the woods was on October 8 - and that was the last post about CC's you wrote. (By the way, it would be great if you post another one at the end of "Runnings" about the scream and CC's further course.) So, 1. Either they went with Eryndil North to his father's place, stayed there for some time and then returned back South to Cameth Brin. 2. Or, when the company divided, they chose to go to Pennmorva, or to some place near it where their aunt (Malaneth's mother) was supposed to live. There they found a devastation and learned that their only surviving relative - their cousin Malaneth - had been led away by Broggha . So with a group of travelers they went to Cameth Brin - as Pennmorva was now in Broggha's hands and unsafe. Either way, I believe it will take a couple of weeks for them to arrive to Cameth Brin. So, they would come to the capital on the 22-23 of October, three days after Broggha, just missing the unforgettable welcome party. That leaves them a week in the city before Gimilbeth departs. Rian: "(political:)would that be long enough for him to be trusted enough to go on a trip with the princess?"They are Dunedain and that is a HUGE asset. I believe it is possible that Callon finds a place in the stables or in the army straight away and is obliged to go on the journey, leaving Caelen behind. (especially if she is employed in the kitchens or as a maid in the palace).
Rian: "The only other problem I could see is if he would leave his sister at this time, but he would prob. think she's safe there, and if he was working at the king's stables, he might have to go. Anyway, that was an idea I had and wanted to run by you guys - I'll certainly trash it if you guys don't think it will work. (I need to back-write their arrival at Cameth Brin, anyway ...) "I think it is a good idea. I can tell you what I would have done in your place. I think the ideal place for Callon is to be the driver of the second wagon - that with Hurgon's painter's studio. Then he will have all the opportunities to interact with Hurgon and with Nauremir, who will be travelling in the wagon with him. Also I would have Callon expect to go no further than Brochenridge - but there could always be reasons for him to continue further - if you choose that.
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Post by Rian on Mar 5, 2007 20:05:59 GMT
THose are great ideas, Gordis - I'm very impressed with your grasp of time and place! Sometimes I think I'm almost idiot/savant - I do so well with math/engineering, but truly awful with geography/history/politics ...  Anyway, I really, really appreciate your guys' help! We really need to find Val's story, because I just don't know where we're heading with all this. EDIT - anyone have a problem with Caelen becoming Arinya's assistant? I think that way, Callon would be willing to leave his sister for a brief (as he thinks ... :evil: ) time ... EDIT2 - I think Callon being a co-driver for the second wagon, then taking over Hurgon's wagon when the driver is somehow conveniently offed, would work. Or he'd just ride his own horse (the pack horse, which would be good for a trip, and is still a very nice horse) and then have to drive Hurgon's wagon when Hurgon's driver goes away ... I'm going to give him some reasonable archery skills, since he's a horseman, and very basic sword skills - I'd better have someone working with him on that at the beginning of the trip! ANOTHER EDIT - hey, any of you guys want to make a "good" character in G's escort group to give Callon someone to play off of and to teach him sword skills? |
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Post by Rian on Mar 5, 2007 21:40:42 GMT
(possible "CCs reaction to scream" post - in process)
(pre-scream - Callon sitting with his back against a tree, holding Caelen, who is starting to fall asleep.
scream! then... )
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Caelen's heart leapt to her throat. She felt she couldn't breathe, she couldn't see - all she could feel were cold hands, evil hands, grasping and pawing and hurting her, touching and rending and fouling her innermost body and soul, pulling her down to hideous depths... She began frantically fighting to get away from the arms...
Callon gasped and felt his body go cold all over. His nerves and muscles went numb; his sight blurred. He felt something close to him struggling and knew in the back of his mind that he needed to hold on to it tightly, because it was precious and he had to protect it, but it was as if he was watching his body instead of commanding it, and his arms stayed limp and lifeless. He suddenly felt the cold air against his chest, and saw though a mist the precious thing escaping. Stumbling to his feet, he grabbed at it - at - wait, his sister! what was wrong with him?! - and managed to catch the edge of the cloak that he had fastened around her.
Caelen screamed again and fought like a wildcat to get away, but her brother had his senses back now, and he wrapped his arms tight around her from behind, pinning down her arms. "Caelen, it's me! It's Callon, your brother! Don't fight, sweetheart, it's ok now," he urged into her ear, and then caught her as she collapsed.
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Post by Gordis on Mar 5, 2007 23:18:10 GMT
We really need to find Val's story, because I just don't know where we're heading with all this. EDIT - anyone have a problem with Caelen becoming Arinya's assistant? I think that way, Callon would be willing to leave his sister for a brief (as he thinks ... :evil: ) time ... EDIT2 - I think Callon being a co-driver for the second wagon, then taking over Hurgon's wagon when the driver is somehow conveniently offed, would work. Or he'd just ride his own horse (the pack horse, which would be good for a trip, and is still a very nice horse) and then have to drive Hurgon's wagon when Hurgon's driver goes away ... I'm going to give him some reasonable archery skills, since he's a horseman, and very basic sword skills - I'd better have someone working with him on that at the beginning of the trip! ANOTHER EDIT - hey, any of you guys want to make a "good" character in G's escort group to give Callon someone to play off of and to teach him sword skills? Val's fic is not so much as a story as a time-line like the Tale of Years with some dry facts. All the parts rtelevant to our story have been already posted and reposted here many times. And I included all of it in my prologue, though Val thinks it is too much. OK for Caelen becoming Arinya's assistant - but better not straight away if we want to be realistic. Give it a month or two - let them get acquainted better. After all it is a high position at court close to the princesses. I don't see why you want all these complications with a co-driver. Why not make C-on the driver of Hurgon's wagon from the start? It is by far the least important of the wagons - not like that with the coffin or that with Gim-th things. A new GOOD character in G escort?? Why?? You have 120 good characters already there + Hurgon + Nauremir + Captain Merendil - all of them quite good. Even Gimilbeth and (her two pages) are not really evil. Also Callon may eventually stick with poor Nauremir-Helmir. What better teacher could there be than a demoted knight and noble? But you can always introduce another chartacter (a soldier?)- the group is big. |
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Post by Gordis on Mar 5, 2007 23:29:15 GMT
(possible "CCs reaction to scream" post - in process)(pre-scream - Callon sitting with his back against a tree, holding Caelen, who is starting to fall asleep. scream! then... ) .. There is already the setting for the scream in your last post, Rian - you can find it near the bottom of Page 2 of archived Runnings. I repost it here: On the road to Eryndil's father's thanehold
just before midnight, October 7
Ceruvar, having obtained Eryndil's permission to bring out his harp, carried it over to where Caelen was huddled next to her brother, taking his time and making sure his approach was seen by her. He bowed and addressed her respectfully.
"My lady, we are soldiers, fighting to protect home and family and things of beauty that evil would mar, were it left unchecked. While we are far afield, music reminds us of these things, and encourages and sustains us. Therefore I respectfully ask your permission to play for the men, though it is only with a soldier's rough hand on the strings."
Callon, sure that his sister would still be too traumatized to answer the man, started to reply, but to his surprise, his sister checked him.
"I ... I ..." She gathered her courage and forced herself to answer. "Far be it from me to check any of your well-earned pleasures," she answered with only a slight tremor in her voice. Noticing how he had to lean in closer to hear her voice, which was far weaker than normal, she clenched her fists and shook herself slightly, forcing herself to speak up. "Please feel free to play for the men. I owe you my life for your service to home and King; please don't let my presence check your pleasures ..." Her voice faltered, and a cold wave of fear shot through her body as she thought of the pleasures that the brigands had wanted to take with her. No, no, they will not win! she thought to herself angrily, and forced herself to continue. "I mean, please do whatever you would do normally - I don't want to hinder you in any way, especially after all you have done for my brother and me. But I thank you for your courtesy in asking my permission." She stopped awkwardly, angry at her uncouthness in front of this man, but she didn't know what else to say and thought more words would only make it worse.
Ceruvar, seeing and understanding her distress, saw the heart behind the halting, awkward words and understood the uncouthness was due to her recent trauma. He bowed again, thanking her graciously, and returned to the men.
"Good for you, Callie!" whispered her brother. "Don't let those brigands win! Fight it and come back! I know you're strong - stronger than those cowards are. To attack a woman!" He stopped, too angry for further words.
His sister, exhausted, leaned back against him, and he covered her protectively with his cloak. They listened to Ceruvar's playing, which was far better than his modesty had claimed, and their bodies slowly relaxed as the music flowed around them, blending with the night noises. One of the men started singing along softly as Ceruvar started another melody. His voice followed the melody at first, then wove in and out and all around it in a merry dance as the melody grew more lively. As he and Ceruvar finished with a flourish, the men laughed and clapped softly, complementing the two musicians on their skill.
Eryndil laughed along with his men. "If you two keep that up, you'll have the very trees dancing!" he teased. "But I'm afraid that we're too far afield for dancing right now, and it's getting late - why don't you finish up with a quieter piece, and then we'll draw for first watch."
Ceruvar nodded with a smile, tuned a few strings to change the harp to a minor key, and started playing an ancient and beautiful lullaby. Callon felt his sister sigh and slowly relax into his body.
Suddenly the night was rent with a terrible scream. So I guess you could just continue - it will be a great post- I love your description of the scream. |
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Post by Rian on Mar 6, 2007 0:36:55 GMT
OK for Caelen becoming Arinya's assistant - but better not straight away if we want to be realistic. Give it a month or two - let them get acquainted better. After all it is a high position at court close to the princesses. I might make it an "unofficial" position w/o contact with the princesses, because I really need some type of perceived safe setting for her in order for her brother to leave. Maybe I misread it, but I think there's already a driver of Hurgon's wagon, isn't there? I meant not a public character. But I'll work with it. I sure wish Earniel and Val would come here Yes, I meant to just kind of summarize it - it was a long time ago... |
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Post by Witch-king of Angmar on Mar 6, 2007 5:42:37 GMT
Val's fic is not so much as a story as a time-line like the Tale of Years with some dry facts. All the parts rtelevant to our story have been already posted and reposted here many times. And I included all of it in my prologue, though Val thinks it is too much. Gordis, it is probably not necessary that we find Val's fic. Mostly we just need the timeline to keep us on track. I never thought you had too much. My mind is moving ahead to the ambush. That is going to be difficult if we do not coordinate. Ideas? |
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I will ponder what price it will be... 
Anyway, I really, really appreciate your guys' help!
