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Post by Valandil on Jul 18, 2008 2:31:37 GMT
Alright - I'll have to figure out a way to get the creative juices flowing again.
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Post by Duilin on Jul 18, 2008 5:59:18 GMT
Yes she was allowed by Malvegil to talk to Romendacil, so she will have this talk soon. She knows the King of Gondorl from her early childhood, and he used to be Tarnendur's friend. If Galphant thinks to persuade her to help him arrange his own secret interview with the King, he has to be ve-ery nice and promise her something interesting in return... like the Crown of Cardolan  Indeed, I assumed there would have to be an engagement for any such thing to get anywhere. Just learning that she is going to have a private conversation with Romendacil will make Hador's mouth water, though. Now, about her talk with Romendacil - what do you think the King will say? Refuse to help flat out? Or maybe promise some money? Or promise to send his grand-nephew Castamir with a detachment of men sometime in spring? I like the Castamir idea, as I've already suggested. Probably this would not be a very large force - a significant increase on whatever minimal Gondorian garrison is currently in Tharbad, but not anywhere near a full army - a couple of thousand men, maybe, and a small squadron of ships, which would obviously be useless further upriver than Tharbad. Castamir might be distracted from any efforts to help in Rhudaur by intrigues in Cardolan, though... |
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Post by Gordis on Jul 18, 2008 7:28:00 GMT
Just learning that she is going to have a private conversation with Romendacil will make Hador's mouth water, though. I imagine. ;D OK- Romendacil will promise to send a couple of thousand men (and for Rhudaur it is quite a lot, by the way) to Tharbad in early spring. To Romendacil it would give a unique opportunity to get rid of his grand-nephew, at least temporary. And Gimilbeth would be elated that she had found the armed support at last - so she would be able to think about her own advantages re: the Cardolan succession. Actually, I think Castamir will need the permission from the rulers of Cardolan to pass with his small army through Cardolan territory - won't he? So, he may come to Amon Sul in February-March to get this permission from the Council of Rhudaur - and seeing how the things are, he might advance his own candidature and thus quarrel with Gimilbeth and all the Cardolani. |
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Post by Duilin on Jul 18, 2008 18:56:29 GMT
Hmm...Castamir could sail up the river to Tharbad, I think, without any issues with Cardolan. I would imagine, though that at that point he would need to cross Cardolani territory to reach Rhudaur, unless there is a way to cross the river in the Angle region. Presumably, Castamir would want to march through Cardolan, since it would provide more scope for intrigue. But this doesn't need to be worried about yet. When we start getting into this more, I might like to do a Romendacil and/or Castamir post to set up their varying motivations in this situation.
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Post by Valandil on Jul 18, 2008 21:31:15 GMT
Gordis, Duilin - I'm still a little hesitant about bringing Castamir in as an active party. But if you guys really want to do it, it's OK. And again, there's the winter travel - I don't know how likely it is he would get to Amon Sul by the end of winter even if he DID travel in winter. After all, there would be the troops to gather. And how many would Gondor really want to part with on sudden notice, in mid-November? Do they have unassigned troops just standing around. They would have to be taken away from some other post. Are they all at (or near enough to) Osgiliath? Or could they be picked up along the way, if messengers were sent ahead? At most, I think they'd send him with 400 or 500, instead of a few thousand. And even that would take time. And even if they start soon, they'd probably wait in Tharbad until March. As for route - I think I suggested before a path along the Hoarwell - from Tharbad to the Last Bridge - and maybe it's only a path, not a 'road' per se. The Dwarves considered taking it instead of traveling via Amon Sul. Castamir could come that way, when he comes, which would at least keep him either on the edge of Cardolan (if the path is on the west side - which I think most likely, if used by the Dunedain), or just over its border (if the path is on the east side). Also - I think even if it fell away from disuse in the times of LOTR, I don't doubt there would have been a direct north-south road from Tharbad to Amon Sul. Castamir could take that for speed, but it's right through the heart of Cardolan. If he wants to really make his presence known in Cardolan though, best to take the Great Road: Tharbad, to Harnost, to the Andrath, to Bree, etc. However - if we really want him around, his presence could be felt either through the palantir, or just the knowledge that he's coming. Hmmm... some of the Cardolani delegation may want to dash off to Tharbad. To be among the first to welcome him. - - - - - - - - As an FYI - Earniel left me with a post to make, if she wasn't back before we moved on. We may be safe to wait so far, but if she's not back yet, I'll at least want to post it at the end of the current 'day' in the game.
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Post by Duilin on Jul 19, 2008 5:14:16 GMT
In terms of Castamir, I certainly wouldn't mind waiting to send him until the spring - that does seem to make the most sense, and 500 men (in addition to whatever the regular garrison of Tharbad is) might be fine, as well. I like the idea of a march up the great road, though - maximal possibility of distraction from actually getting to Rhudaur (and do we want him to actually get to Rhudaur?
And, I agree - knowledge via Palantir that he's coming should be enough for the moment. I assume the Cardolanis will have dispersed by the time Castamir actually arrives, so no need to worry about traveling to Tharbad, or whatever, yet.
So, for me to do soon would be - another Amdir/Barund conversation and at least start off the Galphant/Gimilbeth dinner, right?
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Post by Gordis on Jul 23, 2008 0:20:15 GMT
So, for me to do soon would be - another Amdir/Barund conversation and at least start off the Galphant/Gimilbeth dinner, right? Yep. |
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Post by Gordis on Jul 23, 2008 16:36:02 GMT
Nice post, Rian, but I think it should better be reposted much later, before they set out. For now, nobody has any idea that there will be a party sent to CB - nobody but Gimilbeth. And anyway it can't be September! ;D |
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Post by Rian on Jul 23, 2008 19:19:46 GMT
I'm so used to December - I thought we were there in both threads! Oops!!
I'll just change it to December, and have had the elves be in and out during those months.
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Post by Eärniel on Jul 31, 2008 11:25:56 GMT
I'm back! Thanks for holding my post ready just in case, Val.  I'll take back over now. |
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I'll take back over now.