Post by Witch-king of Angmar on Jan 7, 2007 22:40:18 GMT
Gordis
Here is a second dividend from Hammond and Scull’s Reader’s Companion, p 219
QUOTE
palan-diriel - the reference to having looked afar (palan-diriel) Tolkien says in the Road Goes Ever On, is
"to the palantir upon the Tower Hills (the "Stone of Elendil").... This alone of the palantiri was so made as to look out only west over the Sea. After the fall of Elendil the High Elves took back this Stone into their own care, and it was not destroyed, nor used again by Men.
The High-Elves (such as did not dwell in or near the Havens) journeyed to the Tower Hills at intervals to look afar at Eressea (the Elvish isle) and the Shores of Valinor, close to which it lay. The hymn...is one appropriate to Elves who have just returned from such a pilgrimage".
So, Val, no looking into the palantir for you and your numerous descendants!
And, Alcuin, you were right about pilgrimage to the Palanir.
Also note that "it was so made as to look only West". It seems from the very beginning this particular stone only looked at Tol Eressea, and was not in rapport with any other but the Master Stone there. So I was wrong that this Palantir "got stuck" during the Downfall.
It seems, once Elendil was dead, the High Elves lost no time to get this stone back from mortal hands. They evidently decided that humans had no call to gaze at the vanished West where they were never welcome.
Most likely, the Stone was .... ugh..I don't want to say "stolen" ... OK "taken back" from the young Valandil during the years of his fostering in Imladris. He could hardly refuse his foster father Elrond anything, could he?
Pity Olmer is not here, I can see him writing "First they killed Valandil's father, then they stole his Stone"
Here is a second dividend from Hammond and Scull’s Reader’s Companion, p 219
QUOTE
palan-diriel - the reference to having looked afar (palan-diriel) Tolkien says in the Road Goes Ever On, is
"to the palantir upon the Tower Hills (the "Stone of Elendil").... This alone of the palantiri was so made as to look out only west over the Sea. After the fall of Elendil the High Elves took back this Stone into their own care, and it was not destroyed, nor used again by Men.
The High-Elves (such as did not dwell in or near the Havens) journeyed to the Tower Hills at intervals to look afar at Eressea (the Elvish isle) and the Shores of Valinor, close to which it lay. The hymn...is one appropriate to Elves who have just returned from such a pilgrimage".
So, Val, no looking into the palantir for you and your numerous descendants!
And, Alcuin, you were right about pilgrimage to the Palanir.
Also note that "it was so made as to look only West". It seems from the very beginning this particular stone only looked at Tol Eressea, and was not in rapport with any other but the Master Stone there. So I was wrong that this Palantir "got stuck" during the Downfall.
It seems, once Elendil was dead, the High Elves lost no time to get this stone back from mortal hands. They evidently decided that humans had no call to gaze at the vanished West where they were never welcome.
Most likely, the Stone was .... ugh..I don't want to say "stolen" ... OK "taken back" from the young Valandil during the years of his fostering in Imladris. He could hardly refuse his foster father Elrond anything, could he?
Pity Olmer is not here, I can see him writing "First they killed Valandil's father, then they stole his Stone"